McBride posts are related to this ancestry:
I am descended from:
Edythe McBride, daughter of James Thomas McBride and Mary Edna Cawthon
James was son of Robert Hugh McBride and Lucinda Crawford O'Neal McBride
Robert Hugh McBride was son of James McBride and Lucinda Wilson
Lucinda Crawford O'Neal McBride was daughter of Thomas A. and Lucinda White
Lucinda was quite the popular name, leading to much confusion for me initially in figuring out all these people!
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Saturday, July 18, 2009
Saturday, July 11, 2009
Robert Hugh & Lucenda McBride
The following was written in the "History of Pottowatamie County by Ruby Dixson, Granddaughter of Robert and Lucenda (also spelled Lucinda) McBride. Dates are from a Family Bible -by Virgie McGee, Skellytown, Texas. Robert and Lucinda are my great-grandparents.
"My Grandfather and Grandmother, Robert Hugh and Lucenda McBride came to Oklahoma by an Oxen Covered Wagon, trying to make the run east from Norman on September 22, 1891. An Oxen died enroute, causing a delay and they arrived September 12, 1891, buying a claim near town, one mile south of #9 Highway on #102.
The family along with Grandpa O'Neal (Mrs McBrides father) lived in a dugout until a log cabin could be built. Four of the children came from Arkansas, and four other children were born on the farm.
The log cabin was made by cutting the trees, and making logs. The family lived from the land, hunting, trapping, raising cattle, butchering, and preserving meat by salt curing, drying fruit and vegetables from the orchards and garden.
The children attended school at Arkansas Flat. Sunday School was also held in the School until it burned, then it was continued in the McBride home.
The family was active in community functions, such as singings, pie suppers, ice cream suppers, etc.
Robert Hugh McBride: Born May 5, 1855 at Dardenell, Arkansas, died December 21, 1927 at Tecumseh. Married October 18, 1883 to Lucinda Crawford O'Neal born September 2, 1860 near Wichita Falls, Texas. Lucinda died March 22, 1905 at Tecumseh (OK). They are both buried in Brown Cemetery."
Solving Mysteries
One of the things I love about genealogy is solving the little mysteries that are inherent whenever you are trying to piece information together. For example, in the letter written by Robert Hugh McBride about his wife Lucinda's death, it was very difficult to read some of the words. I was working from copies of copies of copies of very old letters. There was a word that appeared to be "ruins" "ruins folks did not cum"). I could not make sense of this until I looked back at some genealogy records and found that Lucinda had a sister Margaret who was married to a man named Runyon. So I gathered that "ruins" was a phonetic spelling of Runyon. In the subsequent letter I posted, it also referred to "Rune's folks" so mystery solved. I also could not figure out the introduction, "Grandpa and ... H ONeal" until I again looked at genealogy charts and saw that Lucinda's brother was William Harrison, so deducted that it was addressed to Grandpa and W H O'Neal.
One of the problems I have discovered with posting on this blog is that the newest post shows up first on the page and some of the earlier posts may have had information that would clarify if the earlier were read first. I am going to try and figure out how to post or group things together that will link posts or make things more clear.
UPDATE: To resolve the problem in the previous paragraph, I wrote all the posts I wanted posted in sequence and saved them as drafts, rather than publishing. In the "Post Options" (at the bottom of the compose screen), there is an option for the post date and time. I put the date and time in the sequence in which I wanted them posted; e.g. the post I wanted to be first would have the most recent date and time. Then when I actually published the post, it put them in the correct sequence.
One of the problems I have discovered with posting on this blog is that the newest post shows up first on the page and some of the earlier posts may have had information that would clarify if the earlier were read first. I am going to try and figure out how to post or group things together that will link posts or make things more clear.
UPDATE: To resolve the problem in the previous paragraph, I wrote all the posts I wanted posted in sequence and saved them as drafts, rather than publishing. In the "Post Options" (at the bottom of the compose screen), there is an option for the post date and time. I put the date and time in the sequence in which I wanted them posted; e.g. the post I wanted to be first would have the most recent date and time. Then when I actually published the post, it put them in the correct sequence.
Friday, July 10, 2009
Another letter about Lu's death (see post "I am ruined"
This letter was written by Lucinda's brother Johnny to her brother Billy after Lucinda's death:
3-26-1905
Tecumseh O.T. (Oklahoma Territory)
Pa, Bill & family I will write you all a few lines to let you no how we all are. we are all up i am awful weak yet i have bin up all the time since last wednesday. I reckon you have heared of Lue's death before now Colonel sent you a telegram right at once but we got a letter from (Note: a line seems to be missing) did not no anything of it until 8 ocock that night they come driveing in it rained on them a good deal during the day and was raining when they got here. They fixed the coffin good and dry. We waited until about 4 oclock yesterday for you to get here. Rune's folks all come but started back this morning. They are so bad behind with their work they said they were bound to get. Last night I took 2 bales of my cotton to town Friday am going to take 2 more tomorrow and have not got my last one gined yet. I ain't stout enough to do much else and thought I would haul it off while I could not be at much else. We got our potatoes planted yesterday and plowed up the old cow lot for a garden. I got wire friday to fence it with. I won't do much this week in the field. Have got to haul my cotton to the gin go to town and put up the garden fence. Hope Bill is better by now so I will close. Coulter has got some plowed.
J. M. O'Neal
I for got to tell you our Rural Mail Rout starts the 15 of April. after that you can direct your letters to Tecumseh R.F.D. No 4
Fanny Nellie wants you to send her 2 setting of them Brown Leghorn Eggs. send them by Express and we will pay it here. Let us no when you start them.
"I am ruined"
My great-grandmother Lucinda Crawford O'Neal McBride, was born in 1860 near Wichita Falls TX. She married Robert Hugh McBride in 1883. They had 8 children, of which my grandfather James Thomas McBride was the second. Lucinda died Mar 22, 1905. Upon her death, her husband Robert wrote a letter to his father-in-law Thomas O'Neal. Following is the letter with the spelling as it was written:
March the 24, 1905 Gradpa and W H O'Neal I have bad news for you al Lu is gon dide wensda morning about 8 the doctor sed her bowels was loct and that ther no remedy only a operation and she was to far gon i sent you a telegram as sone as she died and went to mete you but did not her from you Ruin's folks did not cum i have not heard from them well I am ruined Good by R H McBrideAbove is a picture of the family, Grandpa O'Neal is on the left; Robert McBride in the middle, Lucinda O'Neal McBride on the right. James Thomas, my grandfather, is standing behind Lucinda. The picture was taken in the winter of 1902. Though location is not identified, the baby Gilbert was born in Tecumseh, OK in Sep 1902, so I am presuming this is their home in Tecumseh.
UPDATE: My newfound 3rd cousin-in-law, Gena O'Neal, took me to the location of this log cabin, which is where the McBrides settled. It is located about 6 miles West of Tecumseh, about one mile south of the intersection of Hwy 9 and Hwy 102, and then east about 1/2 mile. No home exists there at present.
The Hanging of a McBride
My grandfather was James Thomas McBride, born on Nov 30, 1888 in Belleville, Yell County Arkansas. He was the son of Hugh Robert McBride, born May 5, 1855 in Dardenelle, Arkansas. A family story has been passed down about the death of Hugh Robert's father, James P. McBride, who was born in 1802 in Kentucky. The following is the story as written by a granddaughter of James McBride whose name I do not know.
"James was hung in Civil War. As I heard it, he was living on farm outside of Havana (Arkansas). When renegades (neither North or South) came he was sitting on porch with baby. They left the baby and took him back in the field and hung him (I saw the tree when I was there once). Granpa McBride said his mother told him and Scott to stay with the Baby. She would be back. But they followed her and watched her cut his dad down, then beat her back to the house. Lucindy (James' wife) then married James brother Andrew Jackson, born about 1812 in Tennessee. Married about 1862. Lucindy and James had 2 children (Andrew McBride, born 1863 in Ark, Mary McBride, born 1865 in Ark.)"
I decided to pursue this story and see if we could find James' grave. I had information that James was buried in the McBride Cemetery near Havana Arkansas. Havana is a small town of about 230 people located about 10 miles from the County Seat of Danville. We stopped in a gas/grocery store to ask if anyone could tell us where McBride Cemetery was located. An older gentleman thought it was out near Cedar Creek; another man drew us a map showing the cemetery on a road turning west off the road we would be on. When we were unable to find that road, we stopped at a house about where the road should be. There were few homes in the area. I introduced myself to the woman who answered the door (Gina). Gina lived with her parents, Doris and Garland. Gina was very interested in genealogy and was quite eager to help us. She invited us in and found some books by a local author, Kathryn Rogers from Dardenelle. Ms Rogers had been a high school English teacher and had written several books concerning local history. I told Gina that I had heard the story about James being hung right after the Civil War by renegades. Gina felt sure that she had read that story in one of the six books. Gina called the author who thought it was either in the book "Rabbit in the Run" or When the Bob White Calls". Gina had these books but we were unable to find the story. I have since tried to find the books but have not been able to.
The location of the "hanging tree" was well known by Gina and her parents. In fact, Garland had been worried that the owner of the land had been clear-cutting the land and was concerned that the tree might have been cut down. He was adamant that this was a historical location and that it was important the tree be preserved. Garland drew us a map of how to find the tree and said that it had been marked by ax with an "X". Gina called the owner of the land to tell them we would be there shortly.
Gina next called a friend named Frankie who was another McBride descendant of the father of James P. McBride (who was also James McBride, born in 1777 in Ireland. Frankie came to the house and visited for a while, telling us of the McBrides that remained in the area. She and Gina then took us to the McBride Cemetery which was through a gate and a ways off in a pasture. We would have never found it on our own. We found the headstone of Lucinda (also known as Lucindy) (James P.'s wife), but not of James P. There were two unmarked small stones, one on each side of Lucinda.
After we left the cemetery, we went to the home of a Mr and Mrs Gray. Mr Gray's mother was a McBride and they had worked many years on the McBride genealogy. They were in their 80-90s. Mr Gray was recovering from hip surgery and bore an uncanny resemblance to a photo I had with me of James and Lucinda's son Scott that I had with me. We visited for a while and compared notes. It was from this discussion that I learned that the McBride who was hung was actually Andrew Jackson McBride, who was the brother of James P. and who had married Lucinda after James' death in 1859. Thus, it was the stepfather (and uncle) of Robert who was hung, rather than his biological father. The hanging occurred in 1864, and James had died in 1859. Lucinda married Andrew in 1859. Robert was born in 1855 and was about 4 years old when his father James died, and was about 9 when his stepfather was hung. While the story written above showed Lucindy and Andrew married in 1862, they were living in the same household in the 1860 census record so I feel the 1859 date of marriage is reliable.
We then went to the land where the hanging tree was. We searched through approximately 5 acres, going over barbed wire, through weeds, and over hills. While we had Garland's hand drawn map, the terrain had changed due to clear-cutting since Garland had been there. We never did with certainty find the tree, but there was a tree standing alone in a field that had a branch off to the side as Garland had described as the "hanging tree". We did not see an "X" mark, but it was the only tree in the area that generally fit the description so we liked to think that we did witness history in that tree.
I have found that people who are interested in genealogy are extremely willing to help others in their searches. As I have often said, only another genealogist can relate to the excitement of finding an old tombstone and saying "Eureka"!
"James was hung in Civil War. As I heard it, he was living on farm outside of Havana (Arkansas). When renegades (neither North or South) came he was sitting on porch with baby. They left the baby and took him back in the field and hung him (I saw the tree when I was there once). Granpa McBride said his mother told him and Scott to stay with the Baby. She would be back. But they followed her and watched her cut his dad down, then beat her back to the house. Lucindy (James' wife) then married James brother Andrew Jackson, born about 1812 in Tennessee. Married about 1862. Lucindy and James had 2 children (Andrew McBride, born 1863 in Ark, Mary McBride, born 1865 in Ark.)"
I decided to pursue this story and see if we could find James' grave. I had information that James was buried in the McBride Cemetery near Havana Arkansas. Havana is a small town of about 230 people located about 10 miles from the County Seat of Danville. We stopped in a gas/grocery store to ask if anyone could tell us where McBride Cemetery was located. An older gentleman thought it was out near Cedar Creek; another man drew us a map showing the cemetery on a road turning west off the road we would be on. When we were unable to find that road, we stopped at a house about where the road should be. There were few homes in the area. I introduced myself to the woman who answered the door (Gina). Gina lived with her parents, Doris and Garland. Gina was very interested in genealogy and was quite eager to help us. She invited us in and found some books by a local author, Kathryn Rogers from Dardenelle. Ms Rogers had been a high school English teacher and had written several books concerning local history. I told Gina that I had heard the story about James being hung right after the Civil War by renegades. Gina felt sure that she had read that story in one of the six books. Gina called the author who thought it was either in the book "Rabbit in the Run" or When the Bob White Calls". Gina had these books but we were unable to find the story. I have since tried to find the books but have not been able to.
The location of the "hanging tree" was well known by Gina and her parents. In fact, Garland had been worried that the owner of the land had been clear-cutting the land and was concerned that the tree might have been cut down. He was adamant that this was a historical location and that it was important the tree be preserved. Garland drew us a map of how to find the tree and said that it had been marked by ax with an "X". Gina called the owner of the land to tell them we would be there shortly.
Gina next called a friend named Frankie who was another McBride descendant of the father of James P. McBride (who was also James McBride, born in 1777 in Ireland. Frankie came to the house and visited for a while, telling us of the McBrides that remained in the area. She and Gina then took us to the McBride Cemetery which was through a gate and a ways off in a pasture. We would have never found it on our own. We found the headstone of Lucinda (also known as Lucindy) (James P.'s wife), but not of James P. There were two unmarked small stones, one on each side of Lucinda.
After we left the cemetery, we went to the home of a Mr and Mrs Gray. Mr Gray's mother was a McBride and they had worked many years on the McBride genealogy. They were in their 80-90s. Mr Gray was recovering from hip surgery and bore an uncanny resemblance to a photo I had with me of James and Lucinda's son Scott that I had with me. We visited for a while and compared notes. It was from this discussion that I learned that the McBride who was hung was actually Andrew Jackson McBride, who was the brother of James P. and who had married Lucinda after James' death in 1859. Thus, it was the stepfather (and uncle) of Robert who was hung, rather than his biological father. The hanging occurred in 1864, and James had died in 1859. Lucinda married Andrew in 1859. Robert was born in 1855 and was about 4 years old when his father James died, and was about 9 when his stepfather was hung. While the story written above showed Lucindy and Andrew married in 1862, they were living in the same household in the 1860 census record so I feel the 1859 date of marriage is reliable.
We then went to the land where the hanging tree was. We searched through approximately 5 acres, going over barbed wire, through weeds, and over hills. While we had Garland's hand drawn map, the terrain had changed due to clear-cutting since Garland had been there. We never did with certainty find the tree, but there was a tree standing alone in a field that had a branch off to the side as Garland had described as the "hanging tree". We did not see an "X" mark, but it was the only tree in the area that generally fit the description so we liked to think that we did witness history in that tree.
I have found that people who are interested in genealogy are extremely willing to help others in their searches. As I have often said, only another genealogist can relate to the excitement of finding an old tombstone and saying "Eureka"!
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